Звёздные Войны: Последние джедаи (Star Wars: The Last Jedi)

[tripitaka]

Тема по Резистанс теперь здесь: Звёздные войны: Сопротивление (Star Wars Resistance)

[BROWAR]

Кэтлин Кеннеди будет у руля Лукасфильма как минимум еще 3 года

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-chief-kathleen-kennedys-lucasfilm-deal-extended-three-years-1147653

 

Некоторые заголовки и статьи по этом поводу прям радуют

Sorry Internet Trolls, Disney Signs Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy To Three-Year Extension

 

Sorry “Star Wars” fans that fear the franchise is going in the wrong direction, the woman behind it all, Kathleen Kennedy, isn’t going anywhere. Much to the chagrin of those pundits out there that have been assuming that the Lucasfilm president was on the way out amid controversies surrounding “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” and “Solo: A Star Wars Story,” but alas, Disney has given Kennedy the ultimate vote of confidence — a contract extension.

 

https://theplaylist.net/kathleen-kennedy-lucasfilm-extension-20180928/

[Танцор34]

Если верить сайту Making Star Wars съемки сериала по мотивам Звёздных Войн от Джона Фавро начнутся уже на следующей неделе. Также появились первые фото с мест съёмок.

 

Точно известно, что действие сериала развернется спустя три года после «Возвращения Джедая».

По неподтвержденным слухам в центре сюжета будет история Мандалора после падения Империи.

Эх. Лучше бы было во времена Империи.

[tripitaka]

Наоборот, хорошо, что больше будет инфы по периоду Новой республики) Империи и Республики уже дофига и больше, куда еще-то.

[skaterboy]

Все таки уникальные люди работают в Голливуде) формально-идиоты, которые не в состоянии придумать нормальную историю или взять парочку симпатичных актеров, которые снимают фильм чисто для детишек и отбитых фанатов, которые схавают любой кал с одноименным названием. Так вот, формально-идиоты, а реально-миллионеры и Мега бизнесмены)

и тем не менее, второй фильм новой трилогии даже близко не приблизился к сборам первой части. Людей не обманешь, второй раз на очередную "шляпу" многие просто не пошли.

[Jdalker]

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' Negative Buzz Amplified by Russian Trolls, Study Finds

“Overall, 50.9% of those tweeting negatively [about the movie] was likely politically motivated or not even human,” he writes, noting that only 21.9% of tweets analyzed about the movie had been negative in the first place.

 

"A number of these users appear to be Russian trolls," Bay writes of the negative tweets.

Так это еще и мы виноваты. :lol::lol: :lol::lol:

 

Похоже и Хан Соло провалился из-за нас! Ух, эти русские. Не идут в кино в США!

[Dark_Hierophant]

Нескольким пацанам с нашего форума можно выдвигать обвинения.

[Денис]

До чего же они жалкие. Особенно политический характер лол.

 

Небось Путин проплатил!

[Sinyor]

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' Negative Buzz Amplified by Russian Trolls, Study Finds

 

Так это еще и мы виноваты. :lol::lol: :lol::lol:

 

Похоже и Хан Соло провалился из-за нас! Ух, эти русские. Не идут в кино в США!

АХАХАХАХАХААХАХА

[MaximumCoool]

Самое смешное, что Жонсон не только репостнул это "исследование" у себя в твитторе, но и действительно верит в него.

[Денис]

Сперва Трампа им выбрали, потом ЗВ уничтожили. Доколе Америка будет терпеть!

[MikhailTarasov]

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' Negative Buzz Amplified by Russian Trolls, Study Finds

 

Так это еще и мы виноваты. :lol::lol: :lol::lol:

 

Похоже и Хан Соло провалился из-за нас! Ух, эти русские. Не идут в кино в США!

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[Танцор34]

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' Negative Buzz Amplified by Russian Trolls, Study Finds

 

Так это еще и мы виноваты. :lol::lol: :lol::lol:

 

Похоже и Хан Соло провалился из-за нас! Ух, эти русские. Не идут в кино в США!

Давайте скажем честно, мы все давно ждем когда нас обвинят в этом .

 

Нескольким пацанам с нашего форума можно выдвигать обвинения.

И награды по одному ведомству

 

До чего же они жалкие. Особенно политический характер лол.

 

Небось Путин проплатил!

Путин где наши деньги?!!

 

Жонсон насрал огромную кучу, свалил на русских.

Тут юмор и смак всей ситуации в том что кучу народу в РФ в бешенство привел Абрамс. А Джонсона уже так, больше по боку. Если бы это делал кто-то с нашей стороны, то это было бы на ПС. Именно Джонсон разозлил тамошний фэндом, без нас.

[Аркин]

Так это еще и мы виноваты. :lol::lol: :lol::lol:

 

Похоже и Хан Соло провалился из-за нас! Ух, эти русские. Не идут в кино в США!

 

Не признают заслуги честных американских хейтеров.

 

Тут юмор и смак всей ситуации в том что кучу народу в РФ в бешенство привел Абрамс. А Джонсона уже так, больше по боку. Если бы это делал кто-то с нашей стороны, то это было бы на ПС. Именно Джонсон разозлил тамошний фэндом, без нас.

 

В точку.

[Jdalker]

Айгер берет на себя вину за провал Соло; Кеннеди продлевают контракт на 3 года; выходит исследование, что в хейте Джедаев виноваты русские. Это все за неделю! Совпадение?

[Стальной Детройт]

Хоть какая-то польза от "русских хакеров".

[tripitaka]

Почитав комменты: Мария Захарова, залогиньтесью

 

In this paper, I analyze tweets sent to the director of The Last Jedi over the first seven months after its release.

 

To ensure that the dataset was not restricted by adherence to certain hashtags or so large that it would exceed my computational resources to analyze it, I chose to study to tweets addressing The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson directly. Using Twitter’s Advanced Search functionality, I retrieved 1273 tweets tweeted directly at the director’s Twitter handle, “@rianjohnson” between December 13, 2017 and July 20, 2018. The Last Jedi opened in Europe on December 13, so this is the earliest that substantial amounts of fan reactions could be expected. Deadline restrictions meant that the tweet collection had to be performed on July 20, but the frequency of tweets sent directly to Rian Johnson about The Last Jedi had also slowed down substantially at this point – even though the debate was still somewhat alive among fans elsewhere. The tweets were scraped from Twitter using the Data Miner software. The data set was subsequently cleaned, so that errors, duplicates and tweets from Rian Johnson himself were removed. Retweets and Likes that appeared as individual tweets in the data set were also removed, as were GIFs and meme images in order to retain text searchability.

 

1. Political agenda

These are accounts that are not solely Star Wars-related but most likely belong to real human beings, rather than bots or sock puppeteers (see below), and from which several/frequent tweets have been sent that can be characterized as overtly political. The tweets on these accounts would typically only occasionally or even rarely be about Star Wars, but also consisted of comments on current affairs or personal matters – the latter being one of the indicators that the owner of the account is not using the account as a sock puppet or exclusively for trolling activity. For example, these accounts would also often include selfies or family photos containing objects or persons that were consistent over time. For accounts with high tweeting/retweeting activity, search terms such as “Trump” and “SJW” (see below) were employed to discover tweets that might indicate a political stance, e.g. for or against the current U.S. President.

 

2. Troll/Sock Puppet/Bots

Several of the accounts could be identified as fully or semi-automated bot accounts, accounts specifically used for trolling, the latter often involving accounts with a false identity, also known as sock puppets. See below for definitions of these terms and how they were detected/identified in the dataset.

 

3. Real fantagonists

These accounts are the most likely to belong to the human beings claiming to be behind them, who are Star Wars fans who were simply disappointed by The Last Jedi for reasons other than political ones and expressed their discontent to Rian Johnson on Twitter. These are fans who tweet very frequently about Star Wars, and who also often did so before the study period. Some of these accounts would contain the occasional politically-oriented tweet or retweet, but not enough to indicate an agenda or position like the accounts in the Political Agenda category.

 

Russian trolls

In addition to the characteristics mentioned above, certain parameters indicate that a troll may part of a Russian social media influence campaign. Several studies have shown how trolls have been used by the Russian Federation in order to sway public opinion in the west through social media and online forums (Kaminska et al., 2017; Zelenkauskaite and Niezgoda, 2017; Giles, 2016; Lange-Ionatamishvili and Svetoka, 2015; Nimmo, 2015) The U.S. intelligence community as well as social media platforms have acknowledged that such a campaign was ongoing during study period, targeting the U.S. midterm election in November 2018 (Diamond, 2018; Gleicher, 2018). From studies of the Russian influence campaign of 2016, researchers have constructed comprehensive lists of criteria for detection of Russian trolls. Analyzing 27,000 tweets from 1,000 Twitter users submitted to the U.S. Congress as part of a list of 2,752 accounts identified by Twitter as having ties to the Russian “troll farm” Internet Research Agency, Zannettou et al. found that Russian trolls usually target “very specific world events” and “political threads”, i.e. they insert themselves in, and often solely focus on, discussions that take up space in American media discourse. They also find that Russian trolls “…adopt different identities over time, i.e., they “reset” their profile by deleting their previous tweets and changing their profile name/information” (Zannettou et al., 2018, p. 1) and prefer the Twitter web client over the mobile client. They predominantly report their location (if at all) to be in the U.S., Germany and Russia, mostly tweet in the languages of these nations, and can be observed randomly switching from one to the other. They also often pretend to be sources of information or news outlets and “nudge” other users to follow them. Their accounts are often created just before or just after events relating to topics that the troll is focused on. Llewellyn et al., analyzing the same 2,752 alleged Russian troll accounts, found that Russian Troll activity peaks at certain points in time. Zannettou et al. also noticed this, finding that Russian troll tweets had two peaks on a typical day during the 2016 presidential election, where their activity was higher than the established baseline for Twitter. Tweets from Russian trolls exceeded the base line between 7am and 10pm and then again - more substantially - between 12 noon and 5pm UTC. Russian trolls also like to retweet other trolls, contact prominent users through mentions and they frequently attempt to organize “political events and abusive behaviour and harassment” (Llewellyn et al. 2018, p. 1).

 

In the present study, the Twitter accounts were categorized after how many of these criteria they met, and those that met a large majority of them would only be placed in the Troll/Bot/Sock Puppet or Russian Troll categories after an extra, qualitative inspection. It is important to mention here that it is widely considered almost impossible to attribute any sort of cyberattack or strategic operation in the online sphere to an actor with absolute certainty, due to the many opportunities for anonymization, masking of IP addresses, adoption of false identities online, etc. (Lobel, 2012; Dipert, 2010; Geers, 2010). This also applies to the trolls and bots found in this study. Though the above described classification has been performed with rigor and the accounts in Troll/Bot/Sock Puppet category fulfill most of the criteria listed, these accounts should be viewed as having a high likelihood of being trolls/sock puppets, bots and Russian trolls. No absolute attributions are claimed.

 

Conclusion

Assuming that the collected dataset of Twitter interactions with The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson is at least to an extent representative of Star Wars fandom on Twitter, there are a number of statements that can be made on the basis of the collected data.

 

First and foremost, the data does not support claims that a majority of fans are so dissatisfied with The Last Jedi that they wish to boycott further Star Wars releases under Disney ownership. Whether you consider the 21.9% (including, political activists, bots and trolls/sock puppets), or the 10.5% (excluding them) tweets expressing a negative attitude towards The Last Jedi, it is clear that a majority is satisfied, more than satisfied or non-committal in their attitudes. It is also shown that a majority of the negative fans with clear gender identifications identify as male, with only a miniscule fraction of negative fans identifying as female. Approximately one in three negative fans express misogynist, anti-progressive, anti-social justice or conservative views. When some detractors of The Last Jedi correctly claim that it is an injustice to place these labels on all negative fans, these detractors also have to contend with the fact that the labels actually fit a large portion of their faction.

 

A number of fans feel like Star Wars has been politicized by Lucasfilm and Disney, but since the political and ethical positions presented in the new films are consistent with older films, it is more likely that the polarization of the Trump era has politicized the fans. The divisive political discourse of the study period and the months leading up to it, has likely primed these fans with a particular type of political messaging that is in direct conflict with the values presented in The Last Jedi.

 

The presence of organized influence measures, i.e. bots, sock puppet and troll accounts, is further indications of attempts to manipulate Star Wars fans as part of a political persuasion tactic. This similarity to political influence campaigns on social media – domestic or foreign – is also underscored by the manner in which misinformation appears and (sometimes strategically) gets propagated. The same misinformation mechanisms as seen in the anti-vaccination controversy and the 2016 presidential election in the U.S. are present in the debate over The Last Jedi. The three latter points are likely the most important contribution of this small study.

 

However, the assertions made in this article must be considered within the limited scope of the data set, which may or may not limit generalizability of the findings. Another problem for replicability is the fact that Twitter is a dynamic forum and only tweets from selected accounts are archived outside the platform’s own servers. This means that data collected during the study period in this paper may not correspond to later searches because users may have deleted tweets or taken down their accounts – a general problem with research based on Twitter data. Yet, even considering the limitations of the data set, there are enough indications that pop culture debates on social media are being politicized, sometimes for strategic purposes that have nothing to do with the subject under debate. As the debate on misinformation, political communication and regulation of social media continues, researchers studying these matters may find it beneficial to turn their attention to pop culture and how political messaging is propagated in its fandoms.

 

Источник: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328006677_Weaponizing_the_haters_The_Last_Jedi_and_the_strategic_politicization_of_pop_culture_through_social_media_manipulation

[rwewr]

Почитав комменты: Мария Захарова, залогиньтесью

Хахаха. Все продиснеевские сквазки перепечатываем. :lol:

 

А вот циферные результаты

 

 

от которых станет смешно любому нормальному и умному человеку. Любители диснеев опять обделались всенародно и прилюдно.

[rwewr]

Айгер берет на себя вину за провал Соло; Кеннеди продлевают контракт на 3 года; выходит исследование, что в хейте Джедаев виноваты русские. Это все за неделю! Совпадение?

Сюдаже надо добавить еще и твит от Ховарда в эти выходные, где он тоже на троллей гнал, что они и его фильму рейтинг занизили. :lol:

 

Лукасфильм просто выпустил методичку по медийной защите своих фильмов и в очередной раз проплатил продажных журналистов.

 

Самое веселое в этой истории, что летом диснеелюбы пытались поднять рейтинг 8 эпизода на томатах используя ники с именами мертвых президентов, и копируя уже написанные ранее хвалебные отзывы. Неделю минимум старались, тысячи коментов набили, но их вычеслили и очистили все их потуги. Так что троллизмом занимаются исключительно диснеелюбы от безысходности.

[Танцор34]

(Kaminska et al., 2017; Zelenkauskaite and Niezgoda, 2017; Giles, 2016; Lange-Ionatamishvili and Svetoka, 2015; Nimmo, 2015)

Чего то мне кажется что как в старые добрые времена в русских пишут все постсоветское пространство. Методы работы американской разведки в расследовании вмешательств в выборы приоткрываются.

[rwewr]

Чего то мне кажется что как в старые добрые времена в русских пишут все постсоветское пространство. Методы работы американской разведки в расследовании вмешательств в выборы приоткрываются.

Очень смешно было с утра читать твит Джонсона, где он сослался на это "исследование". Он так кичился, что перебанил "хейтеров", а негативных коментов там все равно огромное количество. Люди пишут - "я не русский бот, но твое кино ужасно". :lol:

[Танцор34]

Очень смешно было с утра читать твит Джонсона, где он сослался на это "исследование". Он так кичился, что перебанил "хейтеров", а негативных коментов там все равно огромное количество. Люди пишут - "я не русский бот, но твое кино ужасно". :lol:

 

Ему еще долго и много банить.

[Аркин]

А вот циферные результаты

 

Буря в стакане.

[rwewr]

Буря в стакане.

Так в этом вся суть ситуации и методов по защите диснеевских ЗВ.

 

Взять ерунду и из неё с помощью продажной прессы высосать сенсационное разоблачение. Там уже купленная пресса во всю уже строчит крикливые статьи.

 

Кстати, к той статье с которой все началось написали уже огомное количество коментариев. Они прекрасны:

 

GracefullyParanoid ICallsEmLikeISeesEm • 4 hours ago

No. No it's totally true! the movie failed because of Russian Collusion. I know this for a fact because James Comey told me so. He has proof from Orr, Stroczk and Page.

 

PJD1992 R Phillips • 14 hours ago

Half-wits leftists blaming the Russians for Trump? And now for bad reviews of a movie made for inbred morons? Please show your family your post so that they can bring you in for an immediate 72 hr psych evaluation.

 

Immortan Joe Biden R Phillips • 13 hours ago

Blaming a crappy movie on the Russians? Seriously? You guys are truly delusional. Some movies just suck. In my mind there are only 3 Star Wars movies, 2 Terminator movies, 2 Ghostbuster movies, 1 Dumb and Dumber, 3 Indiana Jones movies, and 4 Rocky movies.

 

Mart • 16 hours ago

Shit, I didn't know I was Russian.

 

That_Dude Spook44 • 11 hours ago

Pretty much a Solo repeat. Remember when the false reports came out about Solo outselling Black Panther? lol then the pics of empty theaters started spreading on Twitter. This will be no different. Media outlets reporting record presales and blockbuster weekend predictions. Then the reality will set in.

 

That_Dude Sadie Slays • 14 hours ago

Yeah I can't figure out which bad guy I'm suppose to be am I:

 

1. A Russian bot

2. Nazi

3. Racist

4. Sexist

5. Manbaby

6. Troll

7. Incel

8. Misogynist

 

I just don't know who I am anymore. Please Disney help me out. I need you to pay for some more articles and social media people to hurl names at me because I didn't like the writing and directing in one of your movies.

 

Montello Johnson • 16 hours ago

Untrue. The film was bad enough on it's own. Luke died floating on a rock because he was too sad to get on a ship. That was too moronic for most viewers.

 

Sterling Archer Montello Johnson • 16 hours ago

This is all to deflect criticism away from Kathleen Kennedy. "See, she couldn't possibly be to blame for how bad The Last Jedi, it was Russian trolls!!".

[Jdalker]

Кстати, да. От Кеннеди конкретно отводят стрелки. Она реально там жестко сидит. Айгер за Соло взял, русские за Джедаев.