Грешники (Sinners)

[Citizen X]

Социальные комментарии и в фильмах Тайлера Перри есть. 

Вы все усложняете, а все намного проще - критики любят Куглера потому что Куглер талантлив и умел, у него отличная производственная команда и он знает где заканчивается авторское и начинается жанровое. Никому нет нужды лепить из Куглера кого то другого потому что любят Куглера здесь и сейчас. Технически на высоком уровне до блеска стилизованная южная готика с вампирами в сеттинге 30х про расовую сегрегацию и черную культуру под великолепную блюзовую музыку и с талантливыми актерами? Это не сложно полюбить даже в теории

[lehmr]

это что вдруг за дорога ярости, но ещё и со средненьким трейлером?

не собирался же идти

давайте тогда хотя бы чтоб к четвергу не просело ниже восьмёрки

а то как обычно

[Andrewx]

Ну да. Можно и сходить. Хотя не хотел изначально. Чую критики как всегда преувеличивают. Но ладно, сам посмотрю и будет понятно. 

[Evil.man]

В 11.04.2025 в 16:34, DoomSmiler написал:

Я отказываюсь верить, что чел выше сидит здесь с 2007 и его до сих пор терпят.

Да он в вечном бане сидел последние лет 5 точно, тут же амнистия была в прошлом году после смены владельца, вот и вышел.

[Prunea]

39 минут назад, Evil.man написал:

Да он в вечном бане сидел последние лет 5 точно, тут же амнистия была в прошлом году после смены владельца, вот и вышел.

если я скажу что мне дали вечный бан за то что я не убрал фото вайнштейна с аватарки ты ведь мне не поверишь 

[EMoushen]

Гуглер говорит вдохновлялся Котом в сапогах 2 и Смертью в образе волка при создании местных злыдней. 

[DoomSmiler]

3 часа назад, EMoushen написал:

Гуглер говорит вдохновлялся Котом в сапогах 2 и Смертью в образе волка при создании местных злыдней. 

Стэнфилд будет высасывать из Джордана 9 жизней?

[EMoushen]

Красиво

 

[okami_]

Вау

Неужели мы реально получим уровень Мэд Макса по экспириенсу

[LUCIFER]

Экспириенс будет слишком темным. В экранке не включишь

[okami_]

2 минуты назад, LUCIFER написал:

Экспириенс будет слишком темным. В экранке не включишь

Нужно отучать себя от экранок.

[DandyAndy]

Отрывок

[EMoushen]

@MysteryMan, алярм алярм, 3.5/4 от Сланта!!!

Первая зелёная:

[DandyAndy]

‘Sinners’ Can Make or Break Mike De Luca and Pam Abdy

Цитата

You don’t have to have run a company, or even a lemonade stand, to know that uncertainty and instability are bad for businesses. Yet there is an epidemic of uncertainty in Hollywood, even beyond the agita that arises when tech transforms your business model, or a wildly impulsive president imposes and lifts tariffs on the fly. This town, after all, is living through a transitional moment, with Disney, Paramount, and the Warner Bros. film studio all facing leadership questions that have dragged on seemingly longer than Moses wandered in the desert. (That’s a little Passover shout-out to those who observe.)

 

Warner Bros. Discovery itself is a giant question mark. Every industry player has been sniffing the wind for months, trying to detect a sign of a transformative, David Zaslav–engineered deal. But the recent focal point has been the film studio. The town had already concluded that co-heads Mike De Luca and Pam Abdy were destined to be replaced due to a few big-budget flops and exceedingly generous deals with auteur filmmakers that haven’t exactly paid dividends. The flames were fanned after WBD spokesman Robert Gibbs offered only terse and unsupportive responses when reporters raised the Mike-and-Pam question. Combined with leaks about Zaslav interviewing potential replacements, this posture put the two film veterans in an excruciatingly awkward position—especially when they had to go before a CinemaCon audience of theater owners and media two weeks ago to pitch their slate. “Make a decision but don’t hang them out there,” one longtime industry executive told me.

 

Then A Minecraft Movie came roaring out of the gate (it’s already raked in $550.6 million globally), and the Mike-and-Pam chatter suddenly died down—except for the parsing of who really deserved credit for a movie that had been long-gestating and was already set up with strong producers and a director when the duo took over the studio. Abdy very reasonably told Deadline that a hit film “is an achievement by many people, and everybody deserves to get applauded when something works.” She added, “You can’t blame Mike and I for Joker 2, and then not give us credit for Minecraft.”

 

But the next test comes in just days with Sinners, from Ryan Coogler, starring Michael B. Jordan as twins in a period vampire movie. “Sinners is a pure Mike De Luca play,” noted an insider, meaning it’s an expensive, original swing with an auteur director, as Coogler is proving to be. “Sinners is the movie [Mike] stuck his neck out for.” This is the type of film that many in the industry had claimed to want, but the rich deal angered competitors and even some insiders.

 

Not only did Coogler get a $90 million budget (it’s believed the film wound up costing more) and first-dollar gross, but ownership will revert to him in 25 years. (Coogler has said this was a one-off and he won’t seek to own future films.) The project was a WME package that was auctioned with multiple studios bidding. “Everybody thought $60 million” was a reasonable bid for the film, as one prominent producer told me. “Then it went to $65 [million]. Then [Warners] paid a premium and gave away ownership.”

 

At that $90 million budget, the producer continued, the film probably won’t turn a profit—it will need to do around $300 million in box office—and the lavish deal terms will “hurt the ecosystem of a business that’s already hurting.” This producer is hardly the only one who thinks the movie will lose money. And that’s too bad, because the reviews have been rapturous. Sinners sits at 100 percent on Rotten Tomatoes and is now tracking for a $40 million opening. (Of course, tracking can be way off, and totally failed to predict the success of Minecraft, among other recent misses.)

 

Even if Sinners turns into a sleeper hit, what happens with De Luca and Abdy? More uncertainty at a company that’s shot through with anxiety. Asked for comment on the state of play, spokesman Gibbs responded with this text, which sounded like a bet being hedged: “We are thrilled with the record-breaking global success of Minecraft that was driven by the incredible creativity and dedication of Pam, Mike and the Warner Bros. Motion Picture Group and are excited for the upcoming schedule of releases.”

 

If a hit buys them more time, the town will await the September launch of the big one: Paul Thomas Anderson’s $150 million One Battle After Another, with Leo DiCaprio. That budget presents a very high hurdle. But the biggest test for Warners will come with the July release of James Gunn’s Superman—a project that was not overseen by De Luca and Abdy, to be clear, but bears the megaton weight of Warners’ hopes for DC, and has become a harbinger for whether there is still life in the superhero genre. Meanwhile, many Warners observers think that Peter Safran, Gunn’s co-chairman and C.E.O. at DC Studios, is a contender for the Mike-and-Pam job. If Superman disappoints, what then?

 

Right now, there may be more suspense offscreen for Warners than on-. There are also jitters on the television side. “People are nervous and anxious,” said one source. “There’s some sort of discussion going on with [Comcast C.E.O.] Brian Roberts about spinoffs and the cable group. It was so obvious when David restructured, [creating] two distinct operating divisions.” This person was referring to Zaslav’s decision to restructure WBD into two units—one that holds linear TV networks—just a few weeks after NBCU announced that it would be spinning off its cable networks into “SpinCo,” led by Mark Lazarus. (Comcast, which is keeping Bravo and NBC, along with Peacock, declined to comment about any potential deal.)

 

Observing all this, one Hollywood veteran recently told me he expected that John Malone, the powerful 84-year-old mogul who engineered the WarnerMedia–Discovery merger and backed Zaslav to run the combined company, would finally run out of patience with his protégé of many years. Instead, the opposite just happened. Late last week, Malone announced that he would give up his WBD board seat to become chairman emeritus, and praised Zaslav’s “powerful combination of operational excellence and decisive leadership.”

 

Zaslav may not be loved around town, but he has his fans on Wall Street—as my partner Bill Cohan has chronicled—thanks to his relentless focus on increasing free cash flow and paying down the WBD debt. “John Malone will never get tired of [Zaslav],” a Warners exec told me. “I don’t understand it, but they have each other’s backs.” As for Zaslav, he got yet another raise, with a pay package worth nearly $52 million—far more than Bob Iger’s lousy $41 million in 2024. With the stock down 55 percent since the merger—and down 25 percent so far this year—the response around town was, as usual, stunned jealousy. “He’s like a robber baron from the ’20s!” one agent marvelled.

[Брэнд]

в пятницу бегу, компания собрана, фанаты Джордана, фанаты фильмов про вампиров, и просто фанаты кино. 

[MysteryMan]

2 часа назад, EMoushen написал:

@MysteryMan, алярм алярм, 3.5/4 от Сланта!!!

Первая зелёная:

Это ты к чему?) 

[EMoushen]

8 часов назад, MysteryMan написал:

Это ты к чему?) 

Ну доброе утро, не я же постоянно упоминаю Slant magazine на  фкп) Я думал они для тебя авторитет, не?

[MysteryMan]

1 час назад, EMoushen написал:

Ну доброе утро, не я же постоянно упоминаю Slant magazine на  фкп) Я думал они для тебя авторитет, не?

Но я же о фильме ничего не писал и не слежу за ним. 

[DandyAndy]

[Simon_S]

Я так понимаю стоит ждать переоценённую фигню, как уже это было с "Мы" Джордана Пила?

[psid]

8 минут назад, Simon_S написал:

Я так понимаю стоит ждать переоценённую фигню, как уже это было с "Мы" Джордана Пила?

скорее как с "Нет"

[EMoushen]

Цитата

In the film, which is set in 1930s Mississippi, Steinfeld plays a white-passing character called Mary who is revealed to have black ancestry, which mirrors Steinfeld's own family history (her maternal grandfather was half-Black and half-Filipino).

Оказывается у Хейли не совсем белые корни. А я то думал чего у нее чуть экзотичная внешность)

4 минуты назад, psid написал:

скорее как с "Нет"

Совсем не как с "Нет". То без 5 мин мастерпис.

[psid]

5 минут назад, EMoushen написал:

Совсем не как с "Нет". То без 5 мин мастерпис.

мастеркал мб, но не мастерпис.

Заявка на величие, а по итогу просто каша без внятного смысла

[EMoushen]

1 минуту назад, psid написал:

 просто каша без внятного смысла

Ты просто не понял фильм

[psid]

Только что, EMoushen написал:

Ты просто не понял фильм

Ну че показали, то и понял)